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		<title>First Thoughts about Fishworks</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[With surprisingly little buzz (outside of sun.com) &#8211; must be that darned economy &#8211; Sun launched its new Fishworks product line yesterday: Three hardware products, several of them with flash drives, and an impressive looking user interface, which appears at first glace to surpass anything NetApp offers.  Here&#8217;s a quick rundown of features from [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With surprisingly little buzz (outside of sun.com) &#8211; must be that darned economy &#8211; Sun launched its new Fishworks product line yesterday: <a href="http://www.sun.com/7110/">Three</a> <a href="http://www.sun.com/7210/">hardware</a> <a href="http://www.sun.com/7410/">products</a>, several of them with flash drives, and an impressive looking <a href="http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/features.jsp">user interface</a>, which appears at first glace to surpass anything NetApp offers.  Here&#8217;s a quick rundown of features from Mike Shapiro on <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/mws/">blogs.sun.com</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>NFS v3 and v4</li>
<li>CIFS</li>
<li>iSCSI</li>
<li>HTTP</li>
<li>WebDAV</li>
<li>FTP</li>
<li>RAID-Z (RAID-5 and RAID-6), Mirrored, and Striped disk configurations</li>
<li>Unlimited Read-only and Read-write Snapshots, with Snapshot Schedules</li>
<li>Built-in Data Compression</li>
<li>Remote Replication of data for Disaster Recovery</li>
<li>Active-Active Clustering (in the Sun Storage 7410) for High Availability</li>
<li>Thin Provisioning of iSCSI LUNs</li>
<li>Virus Scanning and Quarantine</li>
<li>NDMP Backup and Restore</li>
</ul>
<p>A few comments: Looks like all of the usual ZFS features are there, with a few additions &#8211; in particular, I wasn&#8217;t aware that the virus scanning project existed, and I didn&#8217;t know that NDMP was far enough along to be included in a production release.  Additionally, from looking at various Sun blogs, I believe that the remote replication feature is zfs send/recv, not <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/avs/">AVS</a>.  Finally, from the nomenclature (&#8220;2008.11&#8243;), I&#8217;d guess that the software is based on the forthcoming release of OpenSolaris, not the recently released update to Solaris 10.<br />
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What&#8217;s missing?  Off the top of my head:</p>
<ul>
<li>Fibre Channel &#8211; <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/comstar/">COMSTAR</a> is coming, presumably.</li>
<li>HSM &#8211; <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/adm/">ADM</a> is also presumably on its way in a future release.</li>
<li>HCL entries for various products like VMware, but again, I have to believe that Sun is working hard on this as well.</li>
</ul>
<p>My first impression from the launch materials: Neat, but the price seems high.  Looking at list prices for the models, and doing some quick calculations for RAID-Z2 configurations with at least one hot spare, the price per usable TB ranges from $3999 and $3933 for a 7210 with 250GB and 1TB drives, respectively, to $11,209 for a single head 7410.  Compare this to the hardware that the 7210/250GB is based on, the X4540, where you pay $2513.71 per usable TB.  Now, as far as I know, Sun isn&#8217;t offering flash drives with their non-Fishworks hardware, so it makes direct comparisons of the price of the Fishworks Special Sauce impossible for most of the rest of the line, but that may change later this fall.</p>
<p>Other thoughts: Why not use the UltraSPARC T2 instead of Opterons?  I&#8217;d expect better performance from the UltraSPARCs, especially when using 10GbE.  Is it a cost issue?</p>
<p>One final note: Sun is making their simulator (a VMware image) available for <a href="http://www.sun.com/storage/disk_systems/unified_storage/resources.jsp">download</a> &#8211; nice touch.</p>
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		<title>Link Dump, 7/17/2008</title>
		<link>http://andyleonard.com/2008/07/17/link-dump-7172008/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
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Elektronkind: OpenSolaris 2008.11 &#8211; A Preview For The Storage Admin &#8211; A look at upcoming storage technologies in OpenSolaris 2008.11, including ZFS, iSCSI, NDMP, COMSTAR, AVS and SAM-QFS.  These products really set OpenSolaris apart from Linux distributions, although I wonder how official this list is, and have some doubts about the status of some [...]]]></description>
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<li><a href="http://elektronkind.org/2008/07/opensolaris-2008-11-storage">Elektronkind: OpenSolaris 2008.11 &#8211; A Preview For The Storage Admin</a> &#8211; A look at upcoming storage technologies in OpenSolaris 2008.11, including ZFS, iSCSI, NDMP, COMSTAR, AVS and SAM-QFS.  These products really set OpenSolaris apart from Linux distributions, although I wonder how official this list is, and have some doubts about the status of some of the projects.  For example, there doesn&#8217;t appear to be much activity on the <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/samqfs/">SAM-QFS</a> OpenSolaris project, although maybe I&#8217;m just looking in the wrong place.  (Seen at <a href="http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/4638-The-upcoming-Opensolaris-2008.11-for-the-storage-admin.html">c0t0d0s0.org</a>.)</li>
<li><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080716-ruling-sco-owes-novell-2-54-million-from-sco-sun-svrx-deal.html">Ruling: SCO owes Novell $2.54 million from SCO-Sun SVRX deal</a> &#8211; Interesting excerpt: &#8220;Judge Kimball also reviewed SCO&#8217;s agreement with Sun and found that some of the terms exceeded SCO&#8217;s licensing authority. Through the agreement, SCO lifted the confidentiality provisions of Sun&#8217;s 1994 SVRX deal with Novell even though SCO was not permitted to do so without Novell&#8217;s explicit consent. The judge concluded that lifting of the SVRX confidentiality provisions was not incidental to a UnixWare license and was consequently not permissible. This raises some intriguing legal questions about OpenSolaris, which includes SVRX code that we now know SCO clearly had no right to let Sun open.&#8221;  I wonder if we&#8217;ll be hearing more about this in the coming months.</li>
<li><a href="http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/interview-it-consumerization.ars">Interview: IT consumerization and the future of higher ed</a> &#8211; Another interesting piece on Ars Technica from today, an interview with Oren Sreebny of the University of Washington, whose best bits obliquely refer to the challenges of <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7421099.stm">miasma computing</a> and information security.  Quotes: &#8220;Lately we&#8217;ve been looking at Google and Microsoft offerings for commodity stuff, and one of the things we deal with in some of our research [departments] is government regulations about &#8216;exporting munitions.&#8217; So one of the manifestations of those government regulations is that you cannot store your data outside the US if you&#8217;re working on some types of government-funded projects.  Google has said, &#8216;We can&#8217;t guarantee that anybody&#8217;s stuff in particular won&#8217;t be in a datacenter that&#8217;s located outside the US, so don&#8217;t bring that stuff to us,&#8217; which is exactly what I&#8217;d be saying if I was them. So we have to figure out, as we start to move in those directions, what we do about that.&#8221;  Also: &#8220;[Separate identity principals for people who are working on sensitive data] is an interesting conversation because, in many ways we&#8217;ve spent the last decade trying to integrate people&#8217;s identity, and do single-sign-on, and not make them have lots of separate accounts in separate places. And in many ways it really goes against the grain to step back from that, but maybe it&#8217;s time to do that.&#8221;</li>
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		<title>My NetApp FAS2020 Makes Me Want To Cry</title>
		<link>http://andyleonard.com/2008/02/07/my-netapp-fas2020-makes-me-want-to-cry/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[poptart&#62; version
NetApp Release 7.2.4L1: Wed Nov 21 00:49:33 PST 2007
poptart&#62; aggr add aggr0 11
Aggregate size 8.48 TB exceeds limit 7.00 TB
aggr add: Can not add specified disks to the aggregate because the aggregate size limit for this system type would be exceeded.

For those with NOW access, the reason is here: FAS2020 Maximum Aggregate Size: Revised [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><code>poptart&gt; version<br />
NetApp Release 7.2.4L1: Wed Nov 21 00:49:33 PST 2007<br />
poptart&gt; aggr add aggr0 11<br />
Aggregate size 8.48 TB exceeds limit 7.00 TB<br />
aggr add: Can not add specified disks to the aggregate because the aggregate size limit for this system type would be exceeded.</code><br />
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For those with NOW access, the reason is here: <a href="http://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb34728">FAS2020 Maximum Aggregate Size: Revised from 16TB to 8TB</a> &#8211; not sure where they got the &#8220;8TB&#8221; in the title, though.</p>
<p>Now, don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m all for data integrity, and I think that keeping the ability to run the WAFL recovery tools is a great idea, but a maximum aggregate size of  nine 750GB SATA drives (per the above document) is ridiculous!  Good thing you can now have four shelves with the 2020, because you&#8217;re going to need them for all the parity drives you&#8217;ll be using.</p>
<p>Did NetApp&#8217;s software group fail to talk to hardware (and marketing) with this product?  No mention of this limitation on the <a href="http://www.netapp.com/ftp/fas2000.pdf">FAS2000 series data sheet</a>, of course.</p>
<p>As an aside, I&#8217;m following Solaris&#8217; <a href="http://opensolaris.org/os/project/comstar/">COMSTAR</a> and <a href="http://blogs.sun.com/amw/entry/cifs_in_solaris">CIFS</a> projects with great interest.  I&#8217;m really hoping they spur NetApp&#8217;s engineering group &#8211; and not just their lawyers &#8211; into action.</p>
<p><strong>Update (4/17/2008):</strong> Two months out, it&#8217;s only reasonable for me to add the following: NetApp and our reseller went to great lengths to make this situation right for my employer.  I don&#8217;t feel at liberty to go into specifics, since this is a personal blog, and I don&#8217;t speak for my employer (Hi Tom!), but their response was impressive.  While I&#8217;m still not a fan of the 2020, the response of NetApp and our reseller was head and shoulders above what is typical for the industry.</p>
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